Powered by Invision Community. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. 3.3 3.3 . IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. Check out our awesome collection now. sogmanjoe, Handle variations are cocobolo, stag & bakelite. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams Fill out the requested information. by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. Made in the USA!!! Original Price $121.68 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Because it still seems like an amazing knife. (70% off), Sale Price 3,263,547 The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. Getting back to the subject of Bowies during the Vietnam time period. Original Price $400.00 Original Price 9,359,606 Even though we were young and we knew every thing. 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. In the 19th century, one of the most popular fixed-blade knives, the Bowie, appeared. Create an account or login in order to post a comment. (45% off), Sale Price $21.96 $148.00, $185.00 Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. And the sales receipt is proof of age. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. thank joe, Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. That was interesting. I have been trying for some time to compile dating info and as you probably know there are some gray areas. There are two variations of guard marked W49's. As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. The real surprise to me was the Case Bowie chopping all the way through in fifteen minutes. (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 The guard wasn't fitted well. Original Price $28.00 You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. joe. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. Sale Price 1,775,148 Original Price 6,896,552 We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. (70% off), Sale Price $89.17 Nearly a foot and a half long. (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 : Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984, SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Western Boulder, Colo. Cracked Ice Knife & Hatch Set 1935 to 1950, VINTAGE WESTERN R16 USA M FIXED BLADE HUNTING SKINNING BOWIE SURVIVAL KNIFE KNIVES OLD SHEATH, VINTAGE WESTERN 742 STOCKMAN JACK PEN FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD ANTIQUE, VINTAGE 1983 WESTERN USA W77 G FIXED BLADE COMBAT FIGHTING DIRK DAGGER BOOT KNIFE KNIVES OLD, Vintage MINT Westmark 701 hunting knife and original leather sheath, WESTER CUTLERY CO. GERMANY 2 1/2" 2 BLADE PEARL CONGRESS LIKE NEW, Western Cutlery Germany Bone Congress Knife, WESTERN USA, W36 Fixed Blade Knife and Sheath. Youve done your homework for sure. but it has never failed me. Ridge Runner Whitetail Ridge Bowie Knife $26.99 $9.98! But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. Original Price 7,118,227 I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. 4,173,623, 8,347,245 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thanks zzyzzogeton! 2023 Created by Jan Carter. $22.40, $28.00 The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post This is a great bowie knife that you can get for under $30. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. I own one like this and I believe its version 1, there is a second stainless steel version that came out shortly after guard marked STAINLESS STEEL over BOWIE just like you said but I believe that to be version 2, let me know your thoughts. Check out our awesome collection now. from United States. If you don't have an account, create one here. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:42 am, Post Description. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. Original Price $289.00 The marking are very important. You must log in or register to reply here. Large Bowies features excellent stag horn grip with brass pommel and English style brass cross guard. According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Original Price 4,740,933 It has alot of documentation and looks good. I carry it with me on all my excursions. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. Powered by, Badges | Original Price 3,571,429 Original Price 6,978,325 JavaScript is disabled. Original Price 4,844,560 Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Buy now. I have never seen an original box & papers for a W49 Bowie. Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Skinning/Hunting/Camping knife, Western States, Boulder Colorado 2 blade pocket knife / Advertising pocket knife c.1911-1950. All have positives all have negatives oh to decide i still have the one i bought back in the '70's i wore every where butt work. It still could be post Vietnam presentation item but who knows. I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. The W49 is the most common found today. 1 In Stock $34.97 More Info For Sale By: GSPTOPDOG Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989) 1 In Stock $70.00 More Info For Sale By: LDF Knives Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977 1 In Stock $95.00 More Info For Sale By: Knives Templar Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline, Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. All About Pocket Knives is a knife related resource center for buying, selling, researching, and discussing all things knives, Post They all had really good documentation. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. The ones marked W49 with large handle bolts are questionable to me. They come all sorts of ways. Good news! (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. See all reviews . Original Price $164.99 Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. Please. If you can located a chromed one I would say there was a good possibility that it was used in Vietnam. See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. Tep. The 4th variant also has larger pins. This post is reserved to hold future oddballs/commemorative/special editions as they pop up in the future. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. Some made in Australia had cast aluminum handles. (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 It's all kind of murky and just passed on like we are doing here. This is a 1980s Western W-49 Bowie knife with rosewood and brass handle and tang valued at $160 to $200CAD. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. The appearance of items in the individual listings may vary slightly from the one above. $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. Exterior: Minimal Wear. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Terms of Service. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. January 6, 2011 in EDGED WEAPONS, hi i want to get a vietnam western bowie knife, but not sure how to tell any differences if there is with them if anyone can help me it would be very helpful. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. Original Price 9,852,217 1,516,995, 2,758,374 2,422,280, 4,844,560 Great! I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. $134.97, $149.97 $66.55, $121.00 Now I see them going for very good money. I hope it helps? The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. 1 month ago on ebay.com. I'm curious on the W49/ or other western knife bowies as a woods knife. i have had a western bowie for 30 years. 1,637,685, 2,339,655 It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline . (70% off), Sale Price 2,684,911 Western didn't seem to keep real accurate records. I have attempted to research these Western knives, of late, and, to be honest with you, the the deeper I dig the more confused I get. Original Price $121.00 But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. A top-end bowie knife that's been around since World War II, the Ka-Bar U.S. Marine Corps Bowie Knife is durable and versatile. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. Thanks for compiling this data and putting it into the chart that you've provided. Its story begins in the 1820's when James Bowie was able to defend himself by using a large knife at the Sandbar Fight in Louisiana. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. 2. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. Original Price 4,881,657 Measures 15 inches long. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 Original Price 2,460,591 We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. I regret not getting one when they were still being made. I did some chopping today, on a piece of maple that fell down in a storm a month ago. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. But once you mod 'em they lose all collector's value. Thanks for stepping in, Sac. Its generally excepted that the first two variations on this knife where blade marked (see pics below). 1,812,130, 7,248,225 Who has the knowledge for this situation? Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 Original Price 1,206,897 If it is legible and anyone can fill in any blanks or dispute any of the data, I am receptive to discussion. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. (15% off), Sale Price 4,256,897 There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. Original Price $149.97 Also has medal with his name and paper documents dated 69-70. hi sactroop the info you sent to me, is just what i was look for and the photos are a great help to me aswell.thanks for your help. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. 2,684,911, 4,881,657 2,135,468, 7,118,227 Original Price 2,958,284 1,218,966, 2,216,502 It's easy! Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? Original Price $169.99 Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? Original Price 3,448,276 Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Original Price 4,205,911 I own one which is believed to be the 3rd variant of the Western W49 Bowie knife. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked:WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. Free shipping on orders $99+. The next 3 versions of the Western Bowie are identical in material and construction. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 Its something for me to shoot for. (10% off), Sale Price $22.40 The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . 4,617,980, 6,157,389 2,955,665, 9,852,217 (45% off), Sale Price 1,708,876 The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. The blade has been sharpened but with care. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. And you are spot-on when you allude to "gray areas." $86.70, $289.00 This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. There is another subset of the W49 knives what I term . Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. The chrome one I own has a replacment sheath made of canvas. The blade's spine is five . It started my knife addiction. (70% off), Sale Price 2,500,000 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. UP FOR SALE IS A VINTAGE WESTERN W49-H LARGE BOWIE KNIFE WITH SHEATH. (35% off), Sale Price 2,020,725 I can hope. Used one for years for yardwork, camping, etc till I discovered machetes. The ones marked on the blade with "BOWIE" (Pictured) are definately Vietnam era. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? If your really lucky you might come across a presentation piece but that is still not a guarentee that it was in Vietnam. Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. (50% off), Sale Price 1,516,995 $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. 1,708,876, 1,898,817 That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. $75.30, $188.24 The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. 4,256,897, 6,978,325 Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Probably one of the most memorable movie quotes of all time came about when Crocodile Dundee scoffed at a mugger's switchblade saying, "That's not a knife." Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! Under Add your personalization, the text box will tell you what the seller needs to know. But without more evidence to support them the above examples are my recommendation at this time.

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